In this paper we will show how to generate Akn+1 and
Skn+1 using a copy of Sn and an element of order k
in Akn+1 and Skn+1 respectively, for all positive integers n≥2
and all positive integers k≥2. We will also show how to generate
Akn+1 and
Skn+1 symmetrically using n
elements each of order k, for all n≥2
and all even integers k≥2.